Killing one to save others?

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It is morally permissible to kill one innocent person to save the lives of more innocent people.

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Killing one to save others?

Post by Jamie Miller » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:54 am

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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by Josh Muller » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:00 am

I don't think it's morally acceptable. I would never want to be in that position and I'd never want to put someone else in that position. If some guy on the street was holding two guns to two innocent peoples heads and told me that he is going to kill them if I don't kill another inncent person I wouldn't do it.

BUT...I don't think this applies to wars. Innocent people die in wars, and sometimes war is unavoidable.

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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by andrewpadon » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:13 am

This is a trick question - there are no innocent people.
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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by shivelycore » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:15 am

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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by wbenton » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:15 am

andrewpadon wrote:This is a trick question - there are no innocent people.


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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by some ghost » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:25 am

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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by Jamie Miller » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:25 am

The general question could be applied to different specific scenarios and obtain different answers.

For example ... if you could go back in time and kill the mother of some murderous dictator, would you?
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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by DD » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:26 am

Old Man of the Mountain wrote:The general question could be applied to different specific scenarios and obtain different answers.

For example ... if you could go back in time and kill the mother of some murderous dictator, would you?


Naah. I would go back in time and tell Hitlers dad to be sure and play catch with him and to make an effort to hug him more.
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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by sucker_leaf » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:51 am

do you mean like Flash Gordan can save everyone of us?
what a difficult question to answer.
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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by Dodds » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:24 pm

Are you guilty of killing the large group of people if you DON'T kill the one person to save them?
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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by some ghost » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:30 pm

Old Man of the Mountain wrote:For example ... if you could go back in time and kill the mother of some murderous dictator, would you?


no. you dont fuck with the time stream.

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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by Jamie Miller » Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:42 pm

Dodds wrote:Are you guilty of killing the large group of people if you DON'T kill the one person to save them?


Good question. If those people are already in danger of dying due to circumstances totally beyond your control, and you don't do the one thing that could save them (killing the innocent person) ... does that mean their deaths are on your head? Is refusing to save a person in danger of death morally equivalent to killing them? Very good question.
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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by Live by the bored... » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:30 pm

Old Man of the Mountain wrote:The general question could be applied to different specific scenarios and obtain different answers.

For example ... if you could go back in time and kill the mother of some murderous dictator, would you?


"Would you kill the innocent to prevent them from manifesting offense?",this asks by example.Imagine a legal or political system that finds this acceptable, where you could be arrested and sentenced because you're going to do something wrong. No justification for the deaths of the innocent has been validated by history when viewed in retrospect...however, there is a legal defense called "Lesser of two Evils", with varying degrees of success state by state and case by case.Sometimes people really do have to do something bad to prevent something worse.
I've had a lot of friends, bandmates, and roommates that were murderers- I should share some of their stories and moral stances with you sometime.
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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by Josh Muller » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:32 pm

Live by the bored... wrote: I've had a lot of friends, bandmates, and roommates that were murderers- I should share some of their stories and moral stances with you sometime.

I would like to hear some of these stories.
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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by some ghost » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:23 pm

Josh Muller wrote:I would like to hear some of these stories.
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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by xPeterx » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:30 pm

DD wrote:
Old Man of the Mountain wrote:The general question could be applied to different specific scenarios and obtain different answers.

For example ... if you could go back in time and kill the mother of some murderous dictator, would you?


Naah. I would go back in time and tell Hitlers dad to be sure and play catch with him and to make an effort to hug him more.


Not too much though. Then he might turn to one of them homoqweers. Ain't nothing right 'bout that!

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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by Dodds » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:22 pm

Also, consider something like a decision the FDA might have to make where a researcher has found that an approved drug which prevents thousands of deaths every year (which are otherwise unpreventable for the sake of this question) is directly responsible for 5 deaths from allergic reactions which were and still are unable to be detected prior to a fatal reaction. Is the FDA then responsible for those 5 deaths if they don't pull the drug? Are they responsible for thousands of deaths if they do?
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Re: Killing one to save others?

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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by BabyPop » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:24 pm

Imagine a legal or political system that finds this acceptable, where you could be arrested and sentenced because you're going to do something wrong.


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Re: Killing one to save others?

Post by Paul Watkins » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:37 pm

Live by the bored... wrote:Imagine a legal or political system that finds this acceptable, where you could be arrested and sentenced because you're going to do something wrong.


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